Hyderabad: One would expect students to be looking forward to Dasara holidays from September 20, but they will be loaded with homework during the break. Teachers say that with exams fast approaching and the term being shorter, students need to constantly revise their work. Many schools will conduct their half-yearly exams in October, which makes it crucial for students to study during the fortnight-long break.
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Every child has a right to a free public education. Why can't educators structure the program to provide it during the school day? If people want their program to extend beyond that, shouldn't they have to give their consent? What is the legal framework that allows public school to require kids to give over their lives to homework in order to remain in public school and expect a high-quality education?By what legal basis is the school able to control my child's entire life from sundown to sunset in order to receive a free and appropriate public education?@Problem solved,Didn't anyone teach you to answer the question being asked? You get an F.
@ Problem[Portion removed.]Your wrote:"The incredible thing in this town is that parents are now demanding no homework at all and all As for their precious children. As if UC Berkeley, Stanford or Harvard will take all 1000 graduating PA seniors if such a scheme is implemented."You don't think children are precious? I do. I think our district does too, at least the mission seems to be to care about the wellbeing of children and optimize the education of all children, not just those who thrive on intense homework.I see no evidence of your sweeping claim. I personally would prefer no homework, but I would never want to take that kind of experience away from the half who want it. I was pretty clear about that above. (You don't care, but I'm assuming you read?) In its place, I would not suggest a program lacking in rigor. I would personally prefer to see core learning take place in a more self-paced, accelerated, and less time-consuming way, so that there is more time for and a focus on higher-level and project-based learning. As well as time for kids to have a social life, have family time, sleep, go to the doctor, etc. Are you saying you don't think public school could do this for anyone? I have a lot more faith in schools, especially in our local schools.I read a statistic that over three times the percentage of homeschool applications are accepted at the illustrious schools as regular applications, including at Stanford. At the regional science fair this year, homeschoolers represented a disproportionately high percentage of winners. Many of them would love to reintegrate with public schools. They're innovators -- we could be learning from them. That said, I'd like to restate my purpose for this post: What is the legal basis for homework? We are no longer 19th century factory workers whose children need to be kept busy round the clock. Why does the state have a right to my child's focus and time round the clock during the school year? Is this practice just something we have all accepted, or is there a legal basis for the state to demand this in order for my child to receive a high-quality education?
An outstanding resource for teaching children to be safe is Kidpower - where they teach people all about setting healthy boundaries to stay safe.If I want to draw better and healthier boundaries between the school day and family time, better and healthier boundaries between school and home, I have to first understand why the school is allowed to cross those boundaries in such an unrestrained way.Anyone? We all debate the homework problem, doesn't anyone know the legal basis for this? What is I simply told the school they must ensure schoolwork is done at school, and will not be sent home, and I expect my child to get a good education and not suffer for setting this boundary. Could the public school refuse to give my child a public education? What legal basis would I have to even set such a boundary, if the school has the right to unfettered control of my child's life during the school year?
Let's see.Are you asking that the schools should be giving a study hall period in which to do assignments? Are you asking for more homework clubs before or after school? Are you asking that homework assignments should not be part of the grade?I don't think that there is a legal precedent for making your child actually do the homework apart from the fact that the missing homework will adversely affect your child's grade. As a result you could say that doing the homework is voluntary to enable a good grade. If you want to take the homeworking assignment out of the grading rubric you may have a faint chance. In an exam driven educational system, homework does not affect the outcome, just the exam on the given day, although some exams have a project as part of the exam. Countries that base their educational system on an exam system tend to give a lot less homework than would be done here, but they tend to have longer days at school and more school days per academic year than we have here.
This is a great question, and a refreshing point of view.I think it makes sense for classes to teach what they need in the timeallotted. I recall reading some years ago, quite a while ago now, thatin Japan or somewhere they were going to dump homework.I think it is a great idea. It would help kids to socialize with other kidsand interact with their parents in a non goal-oriented pass/fail way.Not to mention it allows kids to play and be kids. Also the expertiseof school is supposed to be to teach, but what good is that if the kidis stuck in homework ... there is no one they can ask until next class?Thanks for an interesting question and discussion.We are at a point in automated education that it should be easy totest and find the deficiencies of students and then aim them atremedial lessons to fill in the gaps before they move along. Why weare nowhere near this and only hear about in reference to thefuture is like nuclear fusion ... always sometime off in the the future.Education is a mess. We like to think we want to have democraticeducation, educating everyone, but those on the top with the mostmoney have it their way for their kids.David Callahan's book, "The Cheating Culture: Why More AmericansAre Doing Wrong to Get Ahead" really opened my eyes to howthe stakes of life are so critical that it forces people to cheat, andthey are very good at finding ways to rig the game that are notapparent to others or the casual observer.
I have three children, one being a college freshman who often performed poorly on exams due to anxiety. The homework was a good way to raise the grade. Some are good at tests/bad at homework, and some are good at homework/bad at tests. The homework allowed my child the opportunity to earn a good grade, maybe not an "A", but at least a "B".Over the years, we have had our fair share of teachers who assign insane workloads of homework while others don't assign much. Fortunately, the new superintendent of PAUSD (Max McGee) is going to assess teacher consistency through students completing teacher evaluations.Having a child in college, I have to say that some amount of homework is necessary, but too much is unnecessary and stressful.If the original poster is speaking about middle school only, yes, some homework is necessary to prepare for high school. Yet, we had some rough years of tough teachers who assigned too much (5-6 hours). I think the only classes in middle school that homework is really necessary to complete are math and world language because they build upon themselves.As far as "Problem Solved"s postings, it is quite offensive to generalize that we all want our children at elite colleges. If you knew what it takes these days to be admitted to those, you'd realize that many Palo Alto parents Just Say No.
To Paly Parent, village fool, CrescentParkAnon, and Experienced - Thanks for sharing the feedback,experience and insights. I, too, thought your quote was relevant, village fool, thank you for reposting.I feel the discussion over whether homework is good is bound up in how we choose to educate children. Is the goal for each child to reach their potential, or is school a giant sorting mechanism? I think it should be the former. Nobel Prize Winner Marie Curie apparently homeschooled her (Nobel prize winning) daughter irene with a group of other university parents. She insisted on no more than two subjects a day, finished by noon, then the kids went to museums in Paris and other enrichment during the day. Yet Irene writes much about how she learned about hard work. Curie chose this after realizing Irene was a "dreamer like her father" (father Pierre who also was a "terrible student" according to his own mother who, rather than blame him and crack the whip, realized he needed something different and also homeschooled and tutored him.)There is a transition overhead to constantly changing subjects every 45 minutes, I've read it's about 15 minutes. There's probably a cost on both starting and end points. With seven subjects and actual transition time, thats a few hours a day just sacrificed to switching gears. What if teachers had to figure out how to teach the same material without giving homework? Would scheduling be enough to make up the difference? I suspect that even with different scheduling, there would still be opposite ends of the spectra in terms of desire for homework. Different people have different educational needs, and I think we've never been in a better position to meet them than now. Please realize I am not suggesting one group does intense academic work and the other plays video games all afternoon. To me, it's more a difference of autonomous versus directed learning styles. I was happier myself with the latter, but I am old enough to wish my schooling had emphasized the former more. The former is also what I would prefer for my child, because that's the way he is. Having no homework won't mean learning stops when he leaves, it means he has more autonomy.The question is, if parents had a right to draw those boundaries, would schools have to care about these differences? Would they have to equally serve everyone by innovating and changing so that the educational outcome (whatever they decided on) was equal rather than time spent in school and doing homework being equal for everyone? Again, I just want to know the legal framework for homework. The Constitution established public education (but did not mention homework). 2ff7e9595c
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